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  • well, EU and NATO didnt do anything yet (other than to try to calm down a situation which already was out of control at that point of time) everything else is a matter of conflicting opinions of the people inside the country
  • ahemm and you think that janukowitsch and his party were not supported financially by russia?russia buys their influence in various countries... just like probably everyone does who has the powers to do so the so called opposition btw. has been the majority of the people... well... i dont think that they did this because of a bit money that a party received over many years or because of some politicians which went to the Ukraine AFTER this mess has already started. Russian media distort events …
  • well, the media in most european countries tends to report of everything... not matter if good or evilthats the job of the media and who cares about a nato army infront of the door?The nato countries barely are able to make a decision to attack somebody... unless its an absolutly moraly correct decision. Worries about a Nato attack are absurd... so is the imagination that europe is trying to ruin other countries. And btw.Europe is as much dependent on russian resouces like russia is dependent o…
  • i think they are realthe alignment to russia in that region has historical and geographical reasons very hard to arguement about that
  • i can see the situation from both sideand i totally disagree with your conclusion and opinions about it your pics above show a nice overview of countries in which the political opposition and even population was either locked away or murdered by the governmentsoo... yeah...killing in syria goes on.... thank you russia
  • yeah... and ppl for sure did shake putins hand before he decided to invade a different country to "secure russias interests"
  • surea government should be elected to be legitbut it wouldnt be a bad decision to wait for elections to make a decision about whats legit or notthe current government simply didnt get the chance yet because nobody gave them the time to call new elections and lets face ita democracy can relative easily turn into a dictature it is much harder to turn a dictature back to democracy In my eyes presidents like in syria or ukraine lost their democratical rights when they started to imprison and suppre…
  • slightly off topic... or not:
  • your calculation and your conclusion about german government votes is pretty weird but we could check if this is actually true...all you have to do is to create a poll here and ask people to vote for your opinion on this topicthen we take the results... the votes for your opinion and apply the same calculation you have usedthe population apparently is the number of registered members on the forumthe other values depend on the votes lets see if your calculation is any representative
  • dont try to twist the meaning of that plz
  • well, if krim goes to russia then it would be clever to take a look at the gas deliveries and check how much of that gas was used for the krim it makes no sense for the urkaine (or europe) to pay for the gas that was used for "russian people"(i am just applying common sense)
  • denne, lets take the news from one day before and you see the principle of cause and reaction Russian troops surround Ukrainian military base in Crimea – video | World news | theguardian.comUkraine crisis: Russian convoy enters Crimea military base near Simferopol - Europe - World - The IndependentUkraine crisis: Russian troops storm air base and 'take Ukrainian general prisoner' - Mirror Online Ukraine mobilizes troops after Russia's 'declaration of war' - CNN.com
  • when in 5-10 years they change their minds coz lets say... life in ukraine has become so much bettercoz they have the change to make a similar decision then and vote to leave russia? and wtf gives Putin the right to say what has to be written into the new ukraine constitution? stuff like this is highly disturbing if you ask me:Vladimir Putin Wants To Conquer Belarus, The Baltic States And Finland Says Former AdvisorVladimir Putin ‘wants to regain Finland’ for Russia, adviser says - Europe - Wor…
  • What bothers me most in this conflict are the many obvious lies that were used. "Crimea self defense forces"This is for sure the most idiotic lie that Putin came up with.That were Russian troops without badges. Period!They had uniforms, russian military equipment, russian weapons and russian military vehicles with russian license plates... oh and tanks.I doubt the Crimea population has tanks in their garages... or modern military equipment.That this are self defense forces was one of the bigges…
  • I personally give a damn about who is currently thinking to belong to the ukrainian government.Elections will come and elections will show who will lead this country out of the misery. However, Yanukovitsh is not in the position to claim to be leader of the country anymore.A person who did his best to limit democratical principles certainly has no right to claim the title of the prime minister after leaving the country in times of internal unrests.You can state as often as you want that he was …
  • again an advice... dont try to twist my words to suit your argumenationthis is also something i dont like and btw. we never get the government we like... not even in our own countriesthats a fundamental fact
  • finally we agree on somethingthats a progress
  • there are deads on both sidesthat happens when ppl are not willing to go for a diplomatic solution that people die in a civil war is not surprisingthe only tragedy is that people were not willing to resolve the problems in a peaceful way before the situation escalated. to blame the west like its done in the comments is idioticbut well... when people are angry they often switch their brain off