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Im going to give LP Amos a call, and see if Ivanov (his russian twin brother, and commander of Altair branch of LP) is thawing out of his deep freeze on Murmansk yet. If so, i beleive LP Popov, and LP and Dmitry will also be interested in making many roubles on the high seas of Altair with him. [8] [4]

Bear in mind we did try this before, LP in the past did have some skirmishes with CFPD in Sovet, and we continued to tax there for a while, however it didnt seem much of a success for the following reasons: 1: No CDs available to buy there.--This requires quite a bit of clan organisation to restock. 2: Very low profit margins on trading, means that you will not be able to afford to sustain the purchase of missiles without traders in Sirius transferring money to Altair. For many clans this would…

Shroud was best pvp ship at one point, now Lagg is. that pretty much covers the change of system i think.

*edited* ok jack fair enough

yeah i second Doom,plus, CD's will have to be delivered for fighting in altair, because with everyone in cruise for so long theres no way to stop anyone to tax them unless you wait at the end of each warp gate. With sirius is much better because of the trade lanes can be distrupted.

I like red. Malta sounds great.

Kerm, Sovets blocks off altair completely, no way around it = no altair for anyone, except a handful of systems with no docks. Blocking routes like you say to X from NY was not an issue because of their still being other routes there, it wasnt totally cut off. If OP agrees Sovet rental, then its the same as a clan renting X3043. I also heard OP saying some admin clan would be in Sol at one point. This further still will block off Altair. I guess clan system invasions will now be common place.

Since blocking systems off doesnt seem to be an issue anymore, then someone could rent Dublin. That way Gunnys clan couldnt recruit anyone and get to their home system without invading someone. Also Dublin is a very nice system

The allegiance to an RP hasn't yet been disclosed Huor. Even only 20 mins ago when i last spoke with Racketeer. Kerm: Hokkaido, Hurruga, made no difference to me. Sovet doesnt make a lot of difference either. Because where theres a wil theres a way. @Racketeer, yes of course, Diplomacy

(Quote) I think he means if you go to war with him, he will sell you a sheild. [8]

Well it seems Gunny wants some diplomacy, so this is what will happen i suppose. Over the years, Gunny has taught me some good diplomacy skills, most of what i know i owe thanks to G, hes a good trainer. Its time i rise to the challenge and we negotiate over how much these items such as everything that is sold or collected in altair will cost. As not only will Sovets be subject to a fee, but also, for anything, such as a saracen from Vortuka, for example, would also incurr a fee for a system pa…

(Quote) (Quote) hmmm, yes lots of contradiction there, but like you say, its up to the clan what they consider is rp, and Gunny has 2 times said diplomacy now. So thats the way its staying. I know BG are dying to get involved, and willing to try to manipulate people into break rules in order to get a fight, however, that wont happen. Gunny is the boss of his system Sovetskaya.DiplomacyDiplomacyDiplomacy

Thanks Gunny.

I bought an [SFP] bribe in NY, from Gunny, fully rendered in game in manhattan bar NY. lol On a more serious note, (yes Wavey i have no sense of humour and cannot tell when your making a joke :P) wouldnt it be interesting if server clans were actually affiliated with police, criminals etc.. of the NPC, and they appeared in our race relations list. Hence, possibly server clans would be red reps, and missions were available in their systems to kill their enemies to get rep back. And the clan lead…

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