Posts by Forsaken

I fought this problem before in my mod... weird unexplainable crashes. I feel your pain.

We have our first real mod video. Please check it out and let me know what you think...

If you have high speed then watch it in high quality.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipe7rWuKvo8&fmt=22

If not, you're stuck with the crappy inbedded video copy.
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They have more people, but not more FL players. They are a diverse group which focus on many different things. I'd venture to say most of the people over there don't give one shit about FL or the /v/ squabble. Whereas we are a group who focuses on just one thing/game.

Thanks Trainwiz. Practically every single one of their starspheres in the trailer, with an exception of a few are from my mod, along with the nebula textures and other things. They were stolen from my 1.1 version of the mod it appears. The fact that they basically told us to fuck off afterwards is what really irritates me. WTF did I do to deserve this? I hope they enjoy it.... its at least 3 years worth of work in there, not to include several years of experimentation before that.

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If someone takes that X-wing and starts to create Star Wars Episode VII it is a copyright violation because it aims for making profit

That is what I was getting at. Mods are purely non profit. I just don't see how modDB can pick and choose who it will and won't host. I'd say a large percentage of mods FL and non FL have something in their mod that is from a different source. Afterall, if mods had the resources to generate all content in-house, they might as well pick up a few programmers and be an indie game company. Afterall, getting a hold and learning one of the prepackaged game engines is quite easy (such as the Torque engine).

I have icons from a different game but they're meant as a tribute to those games, I have music scores from other games too. Other mods have content based off of and/or from other games too (not talking about just FL mods)... but I was under the impression, since everything is purely non-profit, and for a players recreational use only... it is good to go. Apparently I am mistaken and with FL Sirius' removal, there is bound to be someone else who comes under the microscope too.

This whole situation really stinks... it hits close to home because it is a fellow FL mod.

It sorta befuddles me. You're allowed to take concepts and models from mainstream "big fish" and your moddb site is ontouched, but if you have models which look like concepts from a small indie game and use them in your "free for distribution... profit-less" mod, then you get your mod removed from modDB.

Looks like they're establishing a precident by this. I thought modDB was for mods one and all. Now I don't condone blatant ripping of others works, heck, I've had my own ripped off before but what can you do? It's not like they're making money off of it. All I can do is be pissy about it. Having said that, I've taken stuff from mainstream games such as music and icons (I think thats it)... and have no qualms about it.

I dunno, its a real grey area. And it sorta hits close to home since it is a fellow FL mod.

P.S. I think the day Inifinity gets released (with all of its features) will be the day my wife lets me get a girl-friend on the side. It looks great, but after crawling over the forums, I can see how the carebears and fanboys are already trying to twist it... such a shame.

I don't know how they got the models... Infinity isn't released is it? If it was models made by the Freelancer Sirius team which emulated concepts.... I dont know how that's enforceable.

At anyrate, where does this put people who use imports from mainstream shows? What about people who take content from published games like SpaceForce or people who use music scores from other games?

I see tons of mods (not just FL mods) which have content from various other places. I'd think there would be a lot of mods that would be deleted on moddb.

They stole the actual models or they made models that looked like the concepts on Infinity?

look at your marketmisc entry for the weapon. You see that 6 in there? You need to change that.

Requesting Access...

Past and current projects are...
Shattered Worlds War-Torn Mod
Asgard RPG Mod
various contributions to several other mods.

I forgot about this thread. Thanks for the complements everyone, it is appreciated. :]

I have more screenshots for your viewing pleasure. No ENB hacks were used... we done a lot of working trying to figure out how FL processes it's textures and making them the highest quality possible without making large 1024x1024+ size texture files. I hope you enjoy the pics...

Battle at the Shikoku->Galileo Jumpgate

Threeway Fight Between Bretonia, Kusari and the Guild

Corsair Cruiser Limping Home

Guild Battleship on the Hunt

I cant believe I didnt look at this thread sooner. Nice work on the planets. Are they SPH? Or are you doing CMP based planets?

Thank you for all of your nice comments. Its very appreciated.

@SaxonRaider
Yes we have pirate/police style rp guidelines. They can tax, and do raids on lawful bases. We also have a conquest system where clans can fight for territory. Player looting, Kill bonus's and we are in the process of implementing a cargopod economy that allows pirates to shoot off pods of player traders and recieve a money bonus for each unit of cargo that was in the pod (if they have a transport ship, with them, they can then tractor the loot and sell it).

Good job on the planet. It's attention to detail, like that, which has a cumulative "wow effect" when put together.

"[Gun]
nickname = lair_turret02ment\models\li_equip.matissile.3dball_weapon.cmpP
ids_name = 263668urret02ment\models\li_equip.matissile.3dball_weapon.cmpP
ids_info = 264668urret02ment\models\li_equip.matissile.3dball_weapon.cmpP
DA_archetype = Solar\dockable\nomad_lair_turret02.cmpe.3dball_weapon.cmpP
material_library = solar\nomad.matd_lair_turret02.cmpe.3dball_weapon.cmpP "

Ouch! that isn't supposed to happen.

Thank you sir! I appreciate it much.

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Still not convinced? Even after all that? Well my friends, keep reading for various comments and feedback our Mod and Community have received.

"This mod is really fun, I like the mining that has been added to the game, and how balanced it is!" xXkillaXx

"With the vets I've played along side and the newbies getting into it because of the mod, it is truly an amazing community and product. If you're looking for a mod that is simply amazing, I really recommend this mod. It's simply the best out there." Robert Merlow

"I'm a veteran of Freelancer. I've owned the game since it came out and sampled every major mod to be released. Shattered Worlds is in my opinion a triumph. Excellent balancing and ship additions make for a more varied scenery in combat, and the mining system is by far the best I've ever encountered. While adding a great many things to Freelancer, there's still a very strong presence of the original game which provides an excellent blend of the old and the new." Tio_Holtzmann

Loads more can be found at ModDB.com on our page. [/size]

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Still not convinced? Even after all that? Well my friends, keep reading for various comments and feedback our Mod and Community have received.

"This mod is really fun, I like the mining that has been added to the game, and how balanced it is!" xXkillaXx

"With the vets I've played along side and the newbies getting into it because of the mod, it is truly an amazing community and product. If you're looking for a mod that is simply amazing, I really recommend this mod. It's simply the best out there." Robert Merlow

"I'm a veteran of Freelancer. I've owned the game since it came out and sampled every major mod to be released. Shattered Worlds is in my opinion a triumph. Excellent balancing and ship additions make for a more varied scenery in combat, and the mining system is by far the best I've ever encountered. While adding a great many things to Freelancer, there's still a very strong presence of the original game which provides an excellent blend of the old and the new." Tio_Holtzmann

Loads more can be found at ModDB.com on our page. [/size]

Here is your problem....

In your weapon_equip.ini entry you have this...

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[Gun]
nickname ion_gun01_mark01

It is missing the "=" after nickname. Add it so it looks like this...

[Gun]
nickname = ion_gun01_mark01

I don't have a dog in this fight. I am a neutral party in this debate, but for the record...

I have helped Discoverys dev team members in the past, and they have given me models for use in Shattered Worlds (so I could utilize DevTeam assets elsewhere instead). While I am not aware of the Discoverys dealing with other communities I cant recall a negative experience with the leaders of the Discovery mod.

As a leader of a up and coming Freelancer community, and as a long time admin of the now-defunct Asgard server. I know how individuals from a community can go elsewhere and their actions reflect poorly upon the community. Unfortunately there is no way to force people not to go and act accordingly.

The only grief I have with Discovery is the players who come to my community and expect me to change how I operate the server. This again has nothing to do with Igiss and his staff. I guess to change the perception that Discovery is uninvolved in the community, they should join the FLCN.

I haven't really had any dealings with SWAT's Devs so I really don't have an opinion.