Posts by fallen_angel

  • Interesting reffernces

    This Is simple its a case of me and my clan being unjustly accused of wrong doings


    @ Op if you are not scared of what i have to say unban my account so we dont have to go through this farce of using fakes because you wont keep me out and in the end noone new will be able to register so unban me and we can sort this out


    hell if u unban me and my clan we wont feel so outcast and this shit can stop and i will be nice to :D



    Btw like my new alias^^ as ive fallen so far i though it was fitting^^

  • The Pure unadulterated truth

    By PiA Darkstalker


    Ok I will admit the posts that I made under the alias Geisha where a little extreme, but it was done out of pure frustration. Have always been loyal to crossfire and Op, I have worked to build the CF community and to support the clans and encourage new players to stay and encouraged the clans that come to become server clans and become an integral part of the community, I have maintained decent standards of behaviour in my clan and asked them to work at promoting the growth of the server and in return the server helped my clan to grow I will never deny this. I have always tried to conduct myself with dignity and restraint even though I have one of the worst tempers in the known universe.


    PiA left for a number of reasons each of us had our own personal reasons to (mine are posted under the faith thread) we didnt leave under a cloud of an argument we left with dignity and explained our genuine sadness at leaving ppl behind. But op decided that our actions where treacherous and that we where now enemies of the server when our only action was leaving he also proceeded to make threats against the clan. This is the log of the discussion I had with Op about PiAs departure


    oh well yes i decided that those actions are treacherous?
    lemme rethink... PiA broke the agreement and the alliance between the serverclans
    PiA are playing "good friends" with r39 now (a clan which fought against CF ... recruited out of 3 serverclans)
    PiA and r39 invited me to a msn chat where i got insulted without any reason
    PiA didnt give a single explaination before or when they left about their reasons
    and right now the PiA leader acts like he has no other task than to destroy this community


    (Excerpt from MSN chat log)
    24/06/2006 16:57:30 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** op
    24/06/2006 16:58:01 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** whats wrong?
    24/06/2006 16:59:08 SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** DS nothing
    24/06/2006 16:59:41 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** ok
    24/06/2006 17:00:12 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** i am sad we have to leave CF
    24/06/2006 17:00:36 SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** DS oh really?
    24/06/2006 17:00:42 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** yes
    24/06/2006 17:01:44 SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** DS well you have done ur decision and ill rethink if my decision was right
    24/06/2006 17:02:12 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** i dont think u bowing out on CF is right
    24/06/2006 17:02:23 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** CF is bigger than any one clan
    24/06/2006 17:02:43 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** and just because we are being irrational doesnt mean u have
    24/06/2006 17:03:32 SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** DS this is not about CF
    24/06/2006 17:04:05 SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** DS this is about a decision i once made during a clan leader meeting
    24/06/2006 17:04:11 SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** DS this is about if all this is worth it
    24/06/2006 17:04:34 SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** DS this is about if i simply should stop all this shit coz it doesnt look like i ever would change anything
    24/06/2006 17:05:26 SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** DS you will never understand it... and i dont even expect that
    24/06/2006 17:05:33 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** I think you have accolmplished a lot
    24/06/2006 17:05:52 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** more than u realise yourself
    24/06/2006 17:06:06 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** you have taught a lot of ppl a lot of things
    24/06/2006 17:06:15 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** even of some have fell by the wayside
    24/06/2006 17:06:49 SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** DS and this is not important.... this is not worth anything
    24/06/2006 17:07:11 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** what is important then?
    24/06/2006 17:08:39 SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** DS i dont know anymore.... i dont know what to do... what to think... or if there is a chance that i ever return
    24/06/2006 17:11:13 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** do u know why we left?
    24/06/2006 17:11:38 SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** DS is this important
    24/06/2006 17:11:43 SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** DS you did
    24/06/2006 17:12:20 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** its not important and its very important
    24/06/2006 17:12:36 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** i just think u deserved an explanation
    24/06/2006 17:13:20 SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** DS right... and that long after chances to change anything have passed by
    24/06/2006 17:13:51 SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** DS there was not an explaination yesterday... or the day before ... or during the whole week
    24/06/2006 17:14:20 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** the reasons we left was out of your control
    24/06/2006 17:14:38 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** it wasnt some hating u thing like other clans did
    24/06/2006 17:14:51 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** or because we found a "better" mod
    24/06/2006 17:15:26 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** the true legacy of the chaos war is the fact that ppl are scared to RP
    24/06/2006 17:15:37 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** either they where there in the war
    24/06/2006 17:15:46 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** or the storys have filtered down
    24/06/2006 17:16:03 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** and so its got to the point
    24/06/2006 17:16:11 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** if one clan fights another
    24/06/2006 17:16:18 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** it causes massive problems
    24/06/2006 17:16:31 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** like BGs counter attack on LPs system
    24/06/2006 17:16:51 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** that should have just been a quick fight to teach them a lesson
    24/06/2006 17:17:05 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** but it turned into a political disaster
    24/06/2006 17:17:25 SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** DS did it?
    24/06/2006 17:17:34 SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** DS i dont think so
    24/06/2006 17:17:37 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** there was a stink on the forums
    24/06/2006 17:17:42 SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** DS but i see what the problem is
    24/06/2006 17:17:52 SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** DS you guys are running away from problems
    24/06/2006 17:18:12 SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** DS BG and LP deal with that
    24/06/2006 17:18:24 SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** DS and there was an agreement about rp
    24/06/2006 17:18:49 SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** DS if that is ur reason than it is plain stupid
    24/06/2006 17:19:21 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** how many times has RP been ressurected to just collapse again?
    24/06/2006 17:19:34 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** again this isnt finger pointing
    24/06/2006 17:19:54 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** its just a sad observation
    24/06/2006 17:19:54 SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** DS FINE.... then lets stop the RP
    24/06/2006 17:19:58 SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** DS and let CF die
    24/06/2006 17:20:12 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** thats not what i meant
    24/06/2006 17:20:22 SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** DS its what you said
    24/06/2006 17:21:07 SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** DS and i really start to believe that this is the best way to deal with that situation... to shut down everything and run away
    24/06/2006 17:21:19 SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** DS then i wont have any problems
    24/06/2006 17:21:32 SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** DS and i dont need to think about how to make others lives better#
    24/06/2006 17:21:43 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** why just because one clan hasnt got the balls to see things through?
    24/06/2006 17:21:46 SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** DS then i dont need to try to build up a community just to see it breaking together
    24/06/2006 17:22:14 SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** DS then i dont need to see that ppl come to me with their promises and all that shit just to break them a few weeks later
    24/06/2006 17:23:25 SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** DS go to your new server.... greet r39 and all those other idiots and let CF die like it is supposed to be
    24/06/2006 17:23:44 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** this has nothing to do with R-39
    24/06/2006 17:24:19 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** it was about pia not ronin or you or CF
    24/06/2006 17:24:26 SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** DS im not stupid... so just go
    24/06/2006 17:24:53 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** no ur not stupid
    24/06/2006 17:25:12 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** so i dont understand why are being like this
    24/06/2006 17:26:03 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** if we are fools enough to leave its something we will have to face
    24/06/2006 17:26:46 SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** DS how should you.... you have not put all your energy into this project... you have not wasted all your time trying to hold the community together .... just to realize that everythat that has been said... said in FL .... said at the leader meetings... or on msn.... that all this was not more than fucking big lie
    24/06/2006 17:27:49 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** Its like this op
    24/06/2006 17:28:10 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** u out everything into CF u put money time and effort
    24/06/2006 17:28:30 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** then ppl do dumb stuff or try to ruin things
    24/06/2006 17:28:39 SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** DS im not interested how it is.-... -- i know for sure how it is
    24/06/2006 17:28:44 SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** DS im not blind
    24/06/2006 17:28:48 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** or ppl argue when u try t o fix things
    24/06/2006 17:28:59 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** so u get frustrated
    24/06/2006 17:28:59 SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** DS and im not going to waste more time with all this here
    24/06/2006 17:29:06 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** and then u lash out
    24/06/2006 17:29:21 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** and then ppl get upset and take it personlly
    24/06/2006 17:29:36 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** so then the small ppl try to get revenge
    24/06/2006 17:29:41 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** and cuase shit
    24/06/2006 17:29:53 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** so u get even mre frustrated
    24/06/2006 17:29:59 SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** DS im not interested in that shit so stop it
    24/06/2006 17:30:27 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** the other thing is
    24/06/2006 17:30:58 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** wouldnt u rather have one clan out there outside CF that will defend it and recomend it?
    24/06/2006 17:31:13 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** instead of nursing silly greivences?
    24/06/2006 17:31:50 SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** DS u dont know what i want.... you wouldnt know even if i would have said it 3000 times
    24/06/2006 17:32:02 SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** DS you did your decision
    24/06/2006 17:32:14 SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** DS and i will do mine
    24/06/2006 17:32:55 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** it wasnt totally my desiscion
    24/06/2006 17:33:00 SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** DS one thing is stupid.... i will never waste time again with something stupid like an online community
    24/06/2006 17:37:04 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** well what ever you decide op i wish you all the best and i hope u rethink and continue all the good work u have done
    24/06/2006 17:37:09 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** bye op
    24/06/2006 17:38:23 SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** DS i will not
    24/06/2006 17:38:58 SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** DS BG will get their orders to leave next weekend
    24/06/2006 17:39:54 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** and where will BG go?
    24/06/2006 17:40:00 SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** DS and if you ever see a BG on another server you better leave asap coz PiA is KOS
    24/06/2006 17:40:17 DS SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** know thats being stupid
    24/06/2006 17:40:33 SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** DS you lost damn many friends yesterday
    24/06/2006 17:40:54 SWAT_OP-R8R ***Ruler vom Dienst, Sk1ller von Natur*** DS bye


    At this time I was extremely hurt I was dealing with my own personal guilt about leaving CF and trying to integrate my clan into a new environment. I will concede that the clans leaving was breaking the leaders agreement but the community was strong it had more server clans than ever before, New server hardware was on the way and a new ASF/CSF system was being created so I felt that now was the right to for PiA to move as CF was at a very high point, higher in fact that at any other time in its history so we where not leaving the server in the shit or abandoning it to a nasty fate or anything else that is treacherous,


    well from the explaination you have given about your reasons to leave you have left CF in such a situation


    Then op used a standard tactic he uses, he made threats to leave and close the server (see the faith thread) this is a tried and trusted technique for him as it instantly turns the server into arse kissing mode and ppl turn all eyes towards him so he can then use his other tactics to greater manipulate the general opinion of the server.


    correction my intention to leave has not changed... ive left the rp issue to centaurian... ive left the serverissue to gunny... and several others are also involved into the build up of the server and this community
    ive also asked several ppl if they can take over the moderation of the forum and other parts of SWAT
    the only reason why im still here is because im not going to risk that the community will break together now... im not going to risk that the new server is not needed any longer which means that i have to pay 169 for nothing
    and i dont like to throw 2000 for the next year serverrent (im bound to the contract for 1 year) out of the window
    (2000 which i was willing to risk coz of the trust that i had in the serverclans once)
    so that im still here is mainly a selfprotection from a high financial loss and partly also because i owe some ppl a future


    oh and... the reasons why i stayed the other times before must have been because empty promises that were made to me.... and this so called trust... sry that i was so stupid to believe in that


    Also He began to demonise PiA and accuse us of being part of some kind of NQ/R-39 conspiracy. Things moved on and he began making threats to the NQ server and continued to make threats towards PiA he stated that these attacks from NQ will not be tolerated and NQ will pay for what it has done when in fact NQ has done nothing to him or CF he made similar statements about the colours server and at one stage he wanted to invade the colours server, he announced this in a server meeting (I have a log of this meeting) he also sent BG members to spy on the colours server. The simple truth is there is no great NQ conspiracy just as there was no colours conspiracy op creates these situations as a method of control over the server. He manipulates ppls fears to use as controls for actions and opinions on the forum and the server, GW bush used similar techniques during his last presidential campaign by using the terrorist threat to create fear.


    i did threat at those which do shit to CF not to others (but that includes you now)
    i was even willing to leave PiA out of it but you have decided to start you small private war here


    and this "conspirace shit" you are talking about... well i was going to post the full r39 issue today but due to the shit you have started yesterday i was not able to finish the final post yet... but for now i start with a few part of it


    1. is it true that r39 tried to get into BG and finally made it into my clan when they came to CF first time?
    it is true... -> BG_Lotto + BG_Mikki



    Quote

    Freitag, 27 Januar 2006 12:52:02 [SWAT_OP-R8R - Welcome to MY house, ] believe me... i will prevent wars between the serverclans
    Freitag, 27 Januar 2006 12:52:31 [MHawk] well you know I was BG_Miki
    Freitag, 27 Januar 2006 12:52:41 [MHawk] and Sleepy was BG_Lotto
    Freitag, 27 Januar 2006 12:52:50 [SWAT_OP-R8R - Welcome to MY house, ] and i will prevent that those clans will die
    Freitag, 27 Januar 2006 12:53:02 [SWAT_OP-R8R - Welcome to MY house, ] i know


    how about a proof how mikki and lotto tried to get access to the BG boards? (i post 2 quote to show you that its the same account)


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    *** Begin session
    Sonntag, 07 August 2005 09:44:19 [brad] hello OP Sonntag, 07 August 2005 09:44:30 [brad] this miki


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    Montag, 08 August 2005 04:47:10 [brad] has changed his(her) status to Online
    Montag, 08 August 2005 04:47:28 [brad] yi know i enjoy readin all that spam:)
    Montag, 08 August 2005 04:47:55 [brad] got a ?
    Montag, 08 August 2005 04:48:36 [brad] i heard that i wpold be a recruit roughly 4 weeks..its been 6:(
    Montag, 08 August 2005 04:49:12 [brad] am i doin something wrong?
    Montag, 08 August 2005 04:49:23 [SWAT_OP-R8R *** Ruler vom Dienst Sk1ller von Natur ***] dunno - i have no forum to check this


    really interesting that the access to the BG internal boards are sooo important for them (btw. lotto asked the same 3 times)



    2. is it true that r39 broke serverrules by using fake chars?
    yes it is true
    here is a list of R39 chars before the chaos war



    the use of fake chars is a violation of serverrules... and it was not the first time.... during the chaos war sleepy was known as [Chaos]LizzardLips


    this is a what the chaos leader wrote on the phx boards:

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    What was surprising, was that both Sleepy (lizzardlips) and Nitr0x helped the dc, pia, and freelancers under gunny so at one point there were 7 people against him there.


    not long ago several R39 members came back to CF (Spirit was one of them) they didnt wear the clantags and used fake chars again (Spirit = GRRR_Serenity)


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    Serenity{GRRR} you know who I am?
    SWAT_OP-R8R_Admin yes i know
    SWAT_OP-R8R_Admin u r r39_spirit
    Serenity{GRRR} yes i am
    SWAT_OP-R8R_Admin and right now you are violating serverrules


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    Samstag, 01 April 2006 09:24:35 [SWAT_OP-R8R - Welcome to MY house, ] i know for sure that ppl try to make ppl move to colours
    Samstag, 01 April 2006 09:24:42 [SWAT_OP-R8R - Welcome to MY house, ] i have seen many gone there
    Samstag, 01 April 2006 09:24:52 [SWAT_OP-R8R - Welcome to MY house, ] and many have told me about it
    Samstag, 01 April 2006 09:25:07 [SWAT_OP-R8R - Welcome to MY house, ] i know that r39 has chars without clantag and fake names on CF
    Samstag, 01 April 2006 09:25:34 [Sleepy] the only ones i know that are there is sev fixer and spirit


    a mail i got

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    Op, Sorry to bother you with something like this, but I was just on the server and saw some players named Blue_Iris and Sleepy breaking the server rules concerning clan tags. I was carrying out a contract on he R-39 MHawk guy, and two guys came and attacked me. Later on, they told me that they were in R-39, and Blue said that she was undercover. I have a shot showing Slepy as a member, but I failed to get one for Blue. I just thought you would like to know.


    i could go on with that fakes-topic coz there is much more but i think other topics are worth to be dealt with aswell


    3. r39 claims to be so peaceful and friendly... real angels... maybe its time to show the truth



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    04.09.2005 15:34:50:pri(12) Gabriel > you talk with him?
    04.09.2005 15:34:54:pri(26) [R_39]_Sleepy > /i gabriel
    04.09.2005 15:37:57:grp [R_39]_Sleepy > woluld rather kill BG thou:(
    04.09.2005 15:38:02:grp [R_39]Exodius > btw if asf and csf are cancelled this means that every clan can attack
    04.09.2005 15:38:12:grp [R_39]Exodius > this means that no clan has to hire a system anymore



    and here a little talk between sleepy and trowa

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    Drake R_39 if cf goes down then all clans should come togheter as one clan on another server
    R_39 Drake I doubt that m8
    Drake R_39 well i would be cool
    R_39 Drake most Chaos will be R_39
    Drake with me as leader



    and thats what they tell others... no there never was bad blood.... only that "come and lets kill BGs... start as much trouble as possible before they ban us"

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    Dienstag, 20 Dezember 2005 01:34:23 [MHawk] have heard stories
    Dienstag, 20 Dezember 2005 01:34:28 [MHawk] much bad blood on that server
    Dienstag, 20 Dezember 2005 01:34:56 [MHawk] LOL and thought R_39 was one
    Dienstag, 20 Dezember 2005 01:35:12 [MHawk] R_39 never had ill feelings toward BG


    4. r39 claims to say the truth
    well hmmm lets see the truth


    hello Mikki... oh i mean hello mhawk
    hello lotto... arghh sleepy... oh no lizzardlips.. argh i meant h8r



    the truth.... r39 claim that after they left none of their members were on CF anymore...
    well lets ask the players on CF "were R39_Spirit and some others which belong to r39 on CF? yes or no?"


    ah right that leaves me to the next point


    5. when r39 left to CF they asked serveral ppl to come with them... including the FALLEN clan
    the result of this was that the clan was splitted and nearly destroyed
    the rests of FALLEN are still on CF


    6. maybe its a good time to go over to the recruitment out of other clans... or the r39 spies


    well ok lets see DC_wolf which is a R39 now



    so r39 came with the poor excuse that wold only used a fake char and is no r39?.... hmm how comes that he was seen with r39 tag on colours and also on NQ?
    just a fake right? (note: he was DC at the same time)


    next one DC_Shadow_hunter
    (no logs available atm)


    then we go on to the BG guys
    lets start with BG_Streamer which has been identified as spy
    we knew that something was wrong with him... looking at the logs ive found this


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    Donnerstag, 19 Januar 2006 07:32:18 [MHawk] Streamer is a good guy OP hated for him to get pwned that way
    Donnerstag, 19 Januar 2006 07:32:33 [SWAT_OP-R8R - Welcome to MY house, ] if u say so Donnerstag, 19 Januar 2006 07:32:46 [MHawk] hell he is a rookie
    Donnerstag, 19 Januar 2006 07:32:55 [MHawk] give him a moth
    Donnerstag, 19 Januar 2006 07:32:59 [MHawk] month
    Donnerstag, 19 Januar 2006 07:33:08 [SWAT_OP-R8R - Welcome to MY house, ] dont know him very good but my feelings for him are not the best


    weird that a r39 cares so much for a BG member not to be kicked out of BG.... especially after he was under suspection to be a fake


    but lets go on with that
    BG_scorpion which joined in january 06.... and departed just a few days after because of "technical problems"... problems that didnt stop him visiting the BG boards EVERYDAY


    the funny thing i didnt notice until i checked the logs these days is this:

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    Donnerstag, 19 Januar 2006 07:17:43 [MHawk] I want to know if you believe a fake to be in R_39 Donnerstag, 19 Januar 2006 07:17:52 [MHawk] and if so who
    Donnerstag, 19 Januar 2006 07:18:22 [SWAT_OP-R8R - Welcome to MY house, ] i know about 2 possible fakes in BG
    Donnerstag, 19 Januar 2006 07:18:32 [MHawk] scorpion?


    fakes? scorpion? how did she know? is that some kind of bad conscience?
    like it turned out BG_scorpioin = [R39]_Scorpator
    prooven by these screenshots (check the icq#)


    7. this shows how situations with r39 change
    they always said that they have no leader

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    Freitag, 14 Oktober 2005 09:23:27 [MHawk] I am leader of R-39 by the way
    Freitag, 14 Oktober 2005 09:23:38 [MHawk] I was not on CF when R_39 first came
    Freitag, 14 Oktober 2005 09:23:41 [SWAT_OP-R8R - Welcome to MY house, ] thought r39 has no leader


    8. the same way situations change concerning the r39 being a clan or not
    when they appeared on CF they claimed not to be a clan... then they claimed to be a wing of chaos... then they were a clan wanting a system on the server... after that r39 was no clan anymore and therefore not responsible for the actions of their members.... and currently from what ive been told they are a clan on NQ but as soon they are responsible for something they do they are not a clan (just a bunch of friends) at the same time (confusing isnt it... or is it just lying to all ppl)


    9. R39 leaving CF
    many of the ppl here were at the meeting when r39 decided to leave CF
    the reason was that r39 wanted to force this community (all clans) to accept their new way of roleplay no matter if its against the interest of the server and its clans or not
    first we invited r39 to the meeting but they refused
    later sleepy and mhawk came to the meeting after they were called by streamer and scorpion (which were never invited to that meeting)
    hmm is that another proof that those were r39 fakes?


    10. how about that... today ive got reports from several ppl that players from NQ did attacks on CF... players which know our clans
    well ive got a long list of chars that i will check now.... they will be compared with the "ids" on NQ and im pretty sure they will fit... maybe they belong to some r39 or to other players from NQ
    well we will see


    The other technique op uses is hatred he creates enemies for the CF community to despise he makes verbal attacks on other clans and servers and guises this with reasoned public debate like the Tekagis treasure thieves thread or the repeated R-39 threads and other examples such as the WP cheater issue threads. This is a very crude psychological technique that allows the community to vent frustrations against other targets and not have at directed at him.


    ahh DS the psychological expert
    well... i didnt start the TT thread... and i only reacted on what has been done
    the r39 issue... well see above
    and the wp cheater issue is well known and has been proven by their own members - lol
    there is no secret that there is a war between BG and WP because of this.... and i see no reason why i shouldnt tell the truth



    Over CFs history many clans have been disgraced by OP and have left and in R39s case they are still targets for his trouble making. PiA is only the most recent and members of the CF community have ignored The unjust actions op as committed against us people who we thought where friends, He banned us all from the forums and the server when we had done nothing wrong this act is what provoked me into making a fake account under the alias of geisha op has also removed PiAs farewell thread as it showed a modicum of public support and good will


    you mean clans like chaos which wanted to destroy the server or HAF which broke serverrules everyday... even r39 broke the serverrules many times... i do my job... if thats your prob then pffft
    and dont use the word friend in connection with us both... you guys broke the friendship and you guys started a flamewar here on the forum.... i only banned those of you which caused shit... but now that you start to use other ppls accounts and break the forum rules this way all PiA chars will be banned to prevent more of this crap


    I posted the links under the geisha account to show ppl some of the history of CF and to see that this situation is not unique and has been created by OP many times before yet the community railed against this even though the majority of you where not here and did not live through these prior situations this is testament to the power of Ops manipulations.


    if you read the threads about this you have seen that it was not me who created those situations... i just reacted as admin of this server


    The thread where I posted Op scheming a war with DC was to show Op making devious plans with CFs greatest enemy R39 he repeatedly makes attacks on this clan and the things he accuses them of doing, yet here Op is plotting in secret a war with another server clan WITH this most heinous and evil and despicable of clans, Op edited this post stating that these actions where for the good of the community. There are two ways to look at this, If these plans where for the good of the community this log shows R39 working WITH Op for the good of the community, The second way is if R39 are evil and want to hurt CF here is OP working WITH R39 to harm the community.


    evil me again right?
    there was no war with DC... because i prevented it
    it was never a secret... you can ask BD or the other DCs
    and the r39 issue ... well see above


    My point is that Op uses fear and hatred to run your community he creates situations for ppl to fear outside forces such as clans and other servers, He then instils hatred to further reinforce his control and ultimately when all else fails he threatens to close the server and people are so scared to lose their home server and community that they capitulate and then praise him to high heaven


    fear?
    "if you fear darkness you have never seen what light can do"
    maybe you should also say that i wanted to close the server just 1 time (at the chaos war) and that this never had anything to do with hate or fear


    Ops motives for using psychological techniques to manipulate everyone are unknown maybe he gets a kick out playing god (he states call me god in his profile) and maybe OP is just a kid with a ant farm. But I hope he means well and just wants to create something special. For all your sakes


    again this god topic... really i get so sick of it being judge by that
    maybe i should do the same "Darkstalker"
    yeah let me use your name to do the same you do to me with that "god" shit
    the same way i could find something in nearly everything on that forum
    sry DS but what you do is plain stupid

  • CF1.6

    Great ships OP... :):):):):):)


    The 3rd ship from down, i sow it somewhere but dont know where...its great ship, think its cruiser or BS not shure

  • Where are you guys???

    Where are all the players of CF, i only sow three peoples today... Why no


    one plays anymore???



    For PiA_Chasman


    Chasman, when i will get my money


    back, i gave you 40mils to transfer them on my other char and i want them back.

  • Sorry everyone!

    Sorry everyone, its my guilty for server


    crashs... When ever i tried to get on CF it crash... Do someone knows whats the problem. I


    get CF update to 1.55 so whats the problem??????????????????????????