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PostIs this thread about that all others are guilty over local problems, but not the local decision makers - aka politicians?Are we Germans again faulty of all this mess, instead the local parliaments? For my understanding this is populism and ignoring facts. Merkel hasnt even a saying in the EU, EU decisions are made in the union of the 27 members and not of a single 1.People are too lazy to get informed and trust in easy decisions. This world isnt easy and there are no easy and fast decisions (e.… -
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PostMichael: Borders werent opened for refugees. They were opened years ago. That what the Schengen Agreement was for. Open boarders within Europe. The problem before was that the border countries didnt treated that agreement as it was meant to be. The Dublin Agreement failed too. That Merkel made a human decision to stop people dying or mistreated can be seen critical, but well she didnt opened the borders for that. The nations made agreements to deal with that years ago and it is up to national d… -
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PostThere are international laws that gives refugees some certain rights - for good reasons. And it is in the national countries decision to follow those laws. I guess Spain signed those laws too. It is your governments duty to take care of refugees and treat them as they are. It is your governments decision where to "house" refugees and it is your governments duty to take care of your own population and to what extent they get social support. Blame your government if that is not working as you wan… -
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PostMichael, you try to compare apples with oranges. You cannot compare refugees with trespassers - too much generalization. Your country has seats in the EU parliament and that gives it influence in decisions. You really we "bad" Germans dictate over others. Maybe we do to a certain extent - but not if it comes to EU wide agreements (such as immigrants, security, etc.). Sure Germany has some weight in the EU, but that has some good reasons - but we dont decide for the entire EU, that is not the pr… -
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PostThe EU gives the framework within each state can act. Sure has the EU a saying but it is not dictating how to act, except someone (nation) disobeys the agreements that were met before. -
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Post(Quote from Michael) Well as far as I know Germany and Austria were opening the borders for some migrants fighting to survive in Hungary. We didnt opened the borders of EU, not from Spain, not from Italy or any other country in the EU. AGAIN, we didnt open the borders, they were already open - for years meanwhile. But we violated the Dublin Agreement that says: Immigrants have to be send back to the country they arrived in Europe. Which is a stupid agreement in my opinion. So in one way we took… -
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PostThat becomes boring Michael. Merkel's fault if others are too lazy to do something. Merkels fault that other countries dont manage to control their borders... Sure. On which planet do you actually live?Dunno how often we repeat that stuff here. What happens in your country and with your borders is up to the decision of your politicians or state leaders - as long as its within the EU laws. No one opened any border - thats just wish thinking. As you might have noticed they were open over decades … -
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Post... i am proud to be born as German - not that this sounds strange, I think we developed into an open and free country, with a lot of benefits for each one. We achieved a lot in the past and now have to fight for it. Freedom has two sides, and often the side to do something for it is forgotten or put into background. I look forward to that day, when others would finally get rid of the stereotyped thinking - and people are respected due to what they are and not how they look like, what religion … -
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PostSomehow Michael you make me sick with your conspiracy against Germany and our chancellor and what we do and dont in the EU. We had this topic already and your point of argument is yours. But there are other opinions too and we and OP presented you numbers which showed that your point of view is very likely not the fact-statement (same as with your numbers of terrorism and people dying). Never trust statistics if its not your own You can recall 5 different statistics about that and all will have… -
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PostGermany is surrounded by other countries - just in case we would act alone on our behalf and would open borders, every other nation around us could have closed it. We have open borders and welcome refugees and those which seek asylum - while every other nation around us would deny those people and violate human rights. Why haven't these nations done so? Why is this the fault of Germany personified by our chancellor? Now you say that we all forced other nations to open their borders too - at lea…