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(Quote from AwesomeMan) http://forums.amd.com/game/mes…catid=260&threadid=115533 Unfortunately the 128-bit data bus of the 4650 hinders it greatly compared to the 3850's 256-bit data bus. The above comparison is with a 4670 card mind you... Surprised that ATI actually put out some newer AGP models but sadly, those two are using the lower-tier manufacturing process with the 128-bit bus.(one method on how they cripple the performance to create cheaper, lower-end video cards) Meh that sucks... Gue…