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well it looks to me like we do still help each other out with keepin clan systems clean. Gunny actualy helped me out this morning. i have warned several ppl about going into Custodian, Tohoku and Tarsus. when i am online in the early hrs of the morning there are very few ppl on the max bein bout 8. there is never any BG or DC on so i keep an eye on things for them,and will keep doin so untill i am told not to. i would just like to take this oppertunity to say thank you to Gunny for his help.