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ok, i tried nexus - the jupiter incident, and was extreemely unimpressed, FL is far better. just got darkstar1 a few weeks ago, its rather complecated, but yet small, and requires alot to run looking decent. Im still wanting ms to make an fl2 i had the idea a while back of some of us forming a league of developers and testers, we can call ourselves the "Knights of the Digital Anvil" (lol) and start developing something and then get the backing of a bigger company thats got nothing to lose like …

pcforce has great points and has now made me retract my judgement upon NexuS. If total conversion is doable, then it may be worth it! --JAke