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(Quote from Vishnu)Nope.. The guys you meant are called FIASCO .. But I personally have never seen them online again since a few weeks (Quote from Drale)He can tell you as much as he want. Let him talk. Within the NY-System he can't do shi***For the APC .. just get one. UR will also accept the fee after you got it, since they are not online that much times. Just don't forget to pay the fee as soon you see a UR-member online And I think you dont want to wait with getting the APC until you might …