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yea if some one attack me wen i am in apc i pump F anf G like crasy until i dock ><so bats and bots are forbiten in pvp but atacking apc sith fighter is not pvp :> and just cuz you hade baad rp expirience is not the reasont to give up, just dont play with this ppl anymore ><shockforse/schoktreatment is ful of himself, like meny others. thinking they are gods that is ther problem, just be happy and ignore : ) after all wat will your frends think >< dont abandon them cuz of some puchovers