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@Boyscout:as OP said: All new ships are bugged to an extent. @All:there is no reason to call for those specific ships to be banned, if so you would have to ban all ships that are specific to crossfire. most ppl use a shroud and that is bugged, so why call for certain models to be banned? i certainly have no reason to think that i or anyone else who owns a predator has any advantages over anyone in a shroud. the reliant has proved to have a serious enough flaw to be excluded from pvp use, as has…

gunfire paases straight through the tail of the reliant, and registers no damage. ive been killed loads of times in my predator

the karak has been tested in the past to exhibit some serious problems with regarding taking damage on too many points/panels of the ship. for this reason its been taken out of RP because it can offer too much of an unfair advantage to the pilot in pvp/battle scenarios. its ok to use it outside of RP tho, as is the Reliant BS which has serious enough issues too to be excluded from rp.