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first, in my defence i never said 2k3 or 2k4 were as good as UT. infact 2k3 isnt a game...its a piece of art...which is not wat it should b. 2k4 is better tho...more back to the original pace, but not quite there. well, i guess UT was the first FPS i ever played seriously (yeh i got in a bit late there) so i guess im just a fan of that. watever u say wont make me like quake incidentally...knifing ppl? try telefragging for a hobby also i no nothing quite as worrying as the sound of an impact ham…