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After watching a number of players in a Karak take direct hits in the nose by multiple missles and torpedoes with NO DAMAGE. Myself, Sev & Burro decided to do some testing in the arena. Much to our surprise, when the guns are aimed at the nose of the Karak, it will take the shields down but do no damage to the ship. So that explains why it is so hard to kill in PVP..since you go HEAD ON when shooting. So Karak users in my opinion, need to sell them before using them in events or PVP.