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I'm searching some more info about decent joysticks which have also "Yaw" axis usable in flight simulators and games (like Elite Dangerous )I've found this one:Offical page say: VKB-Sim Gladiator Mk.II is the latest mass-market joystick made by VKB. A grip is designed by VKB engineers based on well-known KG12 grip used on number of WWII airplanes and adapted for PC pilots to be more ergonomic for tabletop use. Gladiator Mk.II is a desktop joystick featuring highly accurate magnetoresistive (MaRS…

Have someone prime experience with above joystick? Or have some other joystick as recommendation? I have myself Thrustmaster T16000 which however have serious weakness in its twist axis and poor cheap sensors. Above joystick is also not sold in my country, I can use theirs european site for order it, but honestly I do not know if it is good idea, I have no experience (yet) with purchasing stuff from foreign shops.

That Thrustmaster TWCS throttle is what I have ... and is perfect imo .. cheap and highly functional with many buttons/axis (it is almost unbeliavable that any produt made these days can fill both these criteria ). I alas cannot use pedals (RL restriction), and this is why joystick with twist is for me a must.

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(Quote from ILIYAN)If you will do it, I will be glad. I had some feedback about not so good quality of saitek stick (and it is not low price) so I will welcome 1st hand experience. I only can say for sure, that contactless sensors on all three joystick axes are a necessity if it should serve long(er) time. Im also interested only by joystick, bcs throtle which I have is for my use perfect.

Good advice that above ... and it is problem with that stick in 1st post because if I decide buy it, it would be completelly 'on blind' purchase.

youtu.be/1pkQ_xG6gs0interesting, I found this one right nowyoutu.be/UqHdLtS9tmsthe issue he mention with T16k is exactly the problem with cheap "chinese" sensor used for twist