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Or kill the Rheinlanders, but they get a little annoyed if you do that. BTW: The APC is a great ship.

Even with level 8 shield it can still stand up agianst VHFs and destroy quite easily. I never needed to upgrade the shields.

ATC: Request denied, we cannot accomodate ships of your size. Pilot: Watch me it will fit dammit! ATC: I tell you it won't Pilot: Just watch this will you: Just a little squeeze....................................................OK, a little help here, please? ATC: Are you stuck Pilot: No ATC: Yes you are Pilot: Meh, I minor technicality ATC: I- Pilot: Don't say it! ATC: I told you so.... Pilot: I HATE you.

The Bretonian gunship's wingspan is too wide. You wait till the doors open then go in (just don't do it in a fighter or you will be trapped, I was stuck for Hlaf an hour once!).