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Hi all, Just a little dead-post-raising... Let's talk about Frontier and First Encounter, which had Newtonian physics and stellar systems simulation... Nice, but they would have been better, had they featured more multiple ships combats. One-to-one in newtonian is not very explosive. On multiple ships, it can become really interesting. There was also Nexus - the Jupiter incident. Never fully played, got only the demo, but it was quite nice.