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i had real fun pvping in 1.6 with guns. Nowadays a pvp is a spam of missiles and CD's, there is skill in it but i tried some of the people in guns only (3 guns ppcs or dkas, no tizonas) and wiped them in a mater of 2-3 minutes, which shouldn't happen with good pilots. So dunno it was much more fun in 1.6, i hope 1.8 improves on that.