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tlr has been known to be led by vicious ppl, and this will not change anytime soon. so, as much i can say, tlr will die, eventually, and we should not take part in its last breath, or it may take us too down. being independent is always a good solution. @op, just relax and stay present. do not give any of swat's rights that could be abused, and if it does show to work, swat can always participate. however, i do not really think tlr will ever become fl community representative again. those times…