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Well since it was time for a clean install and I went ahead and did it as I have for the 50th time, I am now getting the [E4] error message. YES I did the CLEAN install (uninstalled and deleted etc) and this is what I get. Considering I am tired of the pain in the ass it is to fix this, I will get to it eventually, unless my addiction kicks in sooner.... See you when I get around to trying the install again..

I do have CF installed on my old PC, so I can use that to appear while I am fixing this crap on my newer PC.....but pvp may be out of the picture

Actually you do start to experience glitches, such as seeing the id codes for NPC as you target them. Game is not running smoothly in pvp etc. (there you go Az). When I went to stuttgart last night , all of a sudden pvp was jumpy and the NPC id codes were visible to me as I targeted the NPC. I fired up my old PC and did a side by side comparison. I did not have the same issue with my other PC. Discovered files were out of whack, so I did a complete uninstall and removal of anything FL / FLMM / …