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And I just don't believe in the big bang, everything is too precise..... Consider this. You take some wood and nails, and leave them there. They aren't going to become a chair. If something as simple as a chair needs a creator, doesn't the universe?

Actually it does...... we can produce anti-matter..... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antimatter CERN produces anti-matter, therefore it *does* exist.

As my grandfather says "Only God knows, and he isn't telling!"

So Tyrael, did you actually read the bible to get the words for your sig, or did you spot it on a website and think it was cool?

Who created the creator? Why can't the creator have always existed? No beginning, and no end. After all, is that harder to believe than the fact that everything happened by chance? And for that matter, how did that first atom get there?

If that is what you believe.... but about the "earth flat" thing.... the bible speaks of the earth as being "a circle"...... long before mankind realised otherwise