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well i wasnt present at the meeting, but i have the logs. and i wont even speak to anyone on the server who isnt a clan leader. thats why its called a "clan leaders meeting"! i have spoken to gunny and OP only, as he is "head" of SP, and OP for obvious reasons. i wont even discuss the meeting with other clan leaders as they have all seen the logs, hopefully by now, so they know as much as me.