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.. and here goes that fast/cheap and easy CPU change .I checked how it look in my PC and there is some additonal free space around, but definitelly not much in direction towards RAM modules which are high, and also there is not much free space above cooler. I attached few images.Hmm, thinking about it again, and maybe in this case I will ask one IT company which I used few times in the past (and was very satisfied) which can order/return parts and check cooler installation in real conditions wit…

(Quote from Martind Forlon)OK, time have little progressed from time I build my PC above and I'm thinking about 2 phase upgrade which should be new PC with "old" graphic card and purchase new graphic (thinking about 4700 or so) somewhere at next year end.I look now at:MSI MAG Z790 TOMAHAWK WIFIIntel Core i5-12600Kram ... thinking about keep what I have now (above)SSD ... have now 2 (250 and 500GB) .. should be enough, but I may buy 1TB if needed)case?power supply?cooler?Any advice/suggestions ar…

It looks like my RAM (HW info shows module name: KHX3200C16D4/8GX) is not on the list, but when I check this module on my current MB compatibility list, then it also isn't there. I guess will need to hope that it will work well (like it does now), but I will be ready to buy new memory modules. Still I wonder if there is some real advantage with purchasing DDR5.

For CPU cooling I think about this: Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black ... it clearly is not a cheap cooler, but should do its work very well. Water_cooling is not my cup of tea and the same are AMD builds ... it may be shiny and perfect, but here I'm traditionalist and going with Intel. With this I think even more about new case including PSU ... my PC's case is older more as 15 years

And OP was right about my reasons for gradual upgrade ... money are playing important role (anyone have own experience with family budget and wife's look on playing games? ), and this is a main reason why I want buy graphic card later, ideally split the total price in half. With more digging about hardware choices I start think whether go for more performance CPU (up to Intel Core i7-13700K)... I very likely will stay in 1080p, but some of new games are quite demanding for power of CPUs and GPUs…

Going little higher as was my initial personal price limit, but here is current pick:Fractal Design Focus 2 Black Solid (case)Be quiet! PURE POWER 11 700WMSI MAG Z790 TOMAHAWK WIFIIntel Core i7-13700KNoctua NH-D15 chromax.blackFor GPU will be aim at RTX 4070 or 4070 Ti, but this is coming later . I may also reconsider buying 2x8 GB DDR5 ram modules, but this also later.edit: 4070 seems may be better choice: https://pc-builds.com/bottleneck-calculator/result/1jc1fl/1/general-tasks/1920x1080/

Ohh … lol, I thought that board can use both types 😄 …. Well, this clearly was not the most brilliant show of pc building knowledge. And not even reading skills since they write it in descriptions with bold letters 😂. Thx, it means to add ram modules to my list.16 or 32GB? ... not sure if todays gaming need more as16?hmm ... it looks like there may be good idea chose ram with XMP support since i use intel build. Need dig little deeper in this.

Searching for RAM modules:32GB: Kingston Fury Beast Black 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 6000 CL36, AMD EXPO ... XMP Profile #1: DDR5-6000 CL36-38-38 @1.35V ... those are low profile which may be good idea with chosen Noctua cooler. 16GB: Kits with 2x8GB have much less options, I found only Kingston Fury Beast Black 16GB (2x8GB) DDR5 6000 CL40 with XMP Profile #1: DDR5-6000 CL40-40-40 @1.35V (those are also low profile)both kits are in chosen MB compatibility list

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I tried to look also DD4 builds, but it seems like their lifetime/sales are ending (sadly price is not affected) and in local stores I did not find anything what would catch my interest. Below is build based on DDR 5 and I've added better PSU:Fractal Design Focus 2 Black Solid (case) MSI MAG Z790 TOMAHAWK WIFI Corsair RM850x (2021) Intel Core i7-13700K ... (TDP 253W) Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black Kingston 32GB KIT DDR5 6000MHz CL36 FURY_Beast Black EXPO ... (KF560C36BBEK2-32, XMP Profile 1: DDR5-6…

I've added new 500GB SSD (Samsung 970 Evo Plus, will be used only for windows and few other sw except games), since in old PC I have Samsung 960 (250 GB) and new mobo do not have this one in compatibility list (970-990 are listed) and sent order ... should be home in 1-2 days. My "old" PC will very likely end on my son desk, so it will have its use. He is very impatient, but he will need wait till next year when I buy new graphic ...I've now checked windows license on my PC ... it is OEM license…

For my actual PC I have further use (or better to say my son really want to have it ), so I will keep that older SSD with windows as it is now and solve new windows license for new PC.I will look little more around, OEM will be good enough, if is cheap, but I still need (must) verified source (shop). I have some restrictions related to use of legal software due my RL work position. This is not something what I can take lightly. Thx for advices guys, I go check what is offered by local sellers.ed…

New build is up and running. So far it seems like all works very smoothly. Tested shortly play Elite Dangerous and Cyberpunk 2077 and play seemed more fluid including higher fps. PC runs very quiet. Also windows activation passed without any issues. ... Now will come that slower part with reinstalling other stuff, setting back keybindings (which I forgot to backup), testing to start old pc with integrated graphic and so on

Cinebench test for multicores was 29993 and for singlecore was 2074. I did not watched temperatures, but for multicores were fans busy

After few more days I can confirm that Elite Dangerous is on new PC working visibly better with "old" graphic card. Much less stuttering, shmootness of functioning, and also movement of more objects. To this include also faster game start etc. It looks like older CPU (i5-8400), or maybe less ram (16 vs 32) were limiting overal gaming output despite what were various benchmark utilities saying about good balance.