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  • And it does not help the real modding communities problems and ideas are only discussed on a chat. Everything written on a chat is doomed to be lost after a few days. Nobody scrolls through days/weeks/months of chat logs. And every information that is lost on the chat is also lost for the next visitors.


    Facebook, Reddit and Discord in my eyes should only serve to guide people to the correct websites/forums/communities instead of trying to replace those. Unfortunately people prefer fast and easy answers over correct ones.


    Yeah I feel the same.. I only started using Discord a year ago as people kept pushing me into it ("why aren't you on discord", "I can't believe you don't have discord" etc etc blah blah), and a year on I really don't rave over it. It has its uses and its popular with a lot of people so I use it to access those communities. However you've just spoken about my biggest frustration. No one goes back through hundreds of messages so its just a sink of information that essentially goes down the drain (the search tool is like searching for the word "and" in a giant word document lol). At least on Reddit & Facebook its easier to go back and look at topics instead of being flooded with nothing by comments, most of which are not important since we all know much people love to argue on the internet (I had to scroll you a 300 message Trump argument the other day in a Civilization 3 discord just to get an important Civ 3 mod link that I'd seen posted only a few hours before but had forgot to download urgh). Call me oldschool but nothing beats forums for easy browsing and locating old topics, their only weakness is that they are volatile. A bill doesn't get paid or an update/server move goes wrong and bam.. all gone. Seen it happen so may times to places I cared greatly for. :(


    Yup that's always what I believe and why I created my Starflight, Master of Magic, Sid Meier's Colonization, and of course the Freelancer FB group as while they're good for news and joining lost communities they are also very good at helping to preserve existing forums (I think I posted above a while back that the FB group literally saved a lost Starflight forum and brought it back from a similar situation to the FL community one you just posted about). When people visit my FB groups the first thing they see is a pinned welcome and info message that contains links to all the FL servers and forums I know about (including this one of course), the groups description contains the same text & links and I occasionally post topics that link to forum threads saying "check this out etc".


    I don't run the Reddit group so sadly I can't do the same there but its definitely not a community to ignore as there's 3 thousand FL fans there! I was really shocked yesterday to find so many FL fans there.


    BTW I didn't know about that FL forum, cheers for that. Will have to add it to the list and join up!

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    - Game Shrines: Age of Wonders, Babylon 5 Games, Command & Conquer, Elder Scrolls, Dune Games, Final Fantasy, Freelancer , Heroes of Might & Magic, Master of Magic, Quest for Glory Series, Starflight, & Star Trek Games

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  • Discord is about instant communication, but with troublesome "longevity" of informations (eventhough there is possible to "pine" messages and also search, which works well and I'm using it quite regularly). Discord can be structured with proper setting, but possibility for spamming is huge, and "cleaning" (moving posts .. not sure if this is possible at all) is problematic (it's tragic to be fair :) ) However big dunno how "trustable" is archiving communications logs for longer time periods. Forums are superb for structured info and theirs longevity, but instant chat is usually much less usable/developed when compared with specialised tool (like discord). I found use of both (theirs strong sides) working really well for me :).


    I also have now few years experience with main communication ongoing at Discord for squadron (wing, group etc.) And supplemently to this is used specialised forum for above mentioned reasons. But in fact forum is much less used; or maybe better said is used much more for offered special functionalities and much less for "chatting".

  • having a wide reach is certainly not bad... but it matters significantly how it is used.

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  • Also forgot to say that while those discord groups are utter chaos they are handy for being able to ask a question and get an instant reply. Not to mention inbetween all the annoying messages sometimes you can just walk in on a convo and find an absolute gem of something you didn't know about.


    Eg I asked if there was a new version of Jasons HD patch that doesn't mess up mission 9.. I got an answer in like a couple of mins.. now I've the newer version I didn't even know existed lol.


    Then some guy posts about the recent widescreen 16:9 planet/city camera view fixer mod I didn't know about either.. been wanting something like that for yeeears.

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    - Total Conversion mods: Star Trek Doom 2, Quest for Glory IV-3D Hexen, & Star Wars Civilization 2
    - Game Shrines: Age of Wonders, Babylon 5 Games, Command & Conquer, Elder Scrolls, Dune Games, Final Fantasy, Freelancer , Heroes of Might & Magic, Master of Magic, Quest for Glory Series, Starflight, & Star Trek Games

  • the question is if the answer is correct


    I would have trusted a google search which leads me to the official download website more.... or would have searched tsp where such topics are usually discussed.

    Maybe the reply on a forum takes a few hours longer but at least it's correct.

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    Don't discuss with idiots. They only drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience there.


    This is ten percent luck,
    Twenty percent skill,
    Fifteen percent concentrated power of will,
    Five percent pleasure,
    Fifty percent pain,
    And a hundred percent reason to remember the name!

  • I do agree with pretty much everything that you guys mentioned. It would be the best to have both worlds. Forums are more organized and it's easier to search stuff and help each other when it comes to "complicated" matter. Discord on the other hand is useful for chatting mostly, and the faster reply time. But as SWAT already mentioned it, the lack of certainty on information is an issue on Discord.


    For me, both this forum and discord are fine as they are right now and I hope it will stay as this in the future :)

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  • Well normally I do use google.. I'm always digging up rare stuff on there when researching content for my website & youtube channel.. however in this case whenever I searched for Jason's FL patch google would show sites with his old 2020 1.20 patch.. in fact even Jasons website itself still has the 1.20 as the primary download and only with careful reading do you notice his little 1.23 dll extra download there now lol. When I asked on the discord I didn't expect anyone to say yes its been updated. In fact by sheer luck my fast answer came from the guy who worked with jason on fixing it himself. However to your point I could have just as easily come on at another time, asked the question and got someone else saying no haha.


    I probably would have asked here or over on the disco or starport forums sooner or later but the question just popped into my head at the exact moment I was lurking in the discord and it worked out haha.

    PS jeez you're quick SWAT! Nothing in the FL universe goes unnoticed by you does it lol! I only uploaded my fixed copy of the darkened ENB mod to ModDB yesterday and I see you've posted about it at lancers reactor within a few hours of me doing it lol. People have been telling me that my original cloud hosted download link wasn't working anymore so I was trying to think of somewhere better to put it... then I realised the original darkened ENB ModDB page I got it from all those years ago allows non-dev team file/pic/vid uploads to their page so I figured I'd stick my fixed copy of their mod on their own friggin page haha! Then I thought to myself 'if they've allowed non dev uploads and I've got all these lovely videos and pictures of the ENB on my website I may as well upload them too as my stuff looks better then their stuff haha. So presumably all my rampant uploading to that page must have popped into some ModDB activity page somewhere that you spotted.

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    Blake's Sanctum:

    - Total Conversion mods: Star Trek Doom 2, Quest for Glory IV-3D Hexen, & Star Wars Civilization 2
    - Game Shrines: Age of Wonders, Babylon 5 Games, Command & Conquer, Elder Scrolls, Dune Games, Final Fantasy, Freelancer , Heroes of Might & Magic, Master of Magic, Quest for Glory Series, Starflight, & Star Trek Games