Trying crossfire SP,does this only happen to me ?

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  • okay , well ,i know crossfire is hard, I read about it and understand that , I am almost through the first SP campaign , the one of the original freelancer , And the problem is when I am in clouds , and it says "Warning , Sensor efficiency reduced " . I tend to loose control of the aim and the faster i go , the worse it gets . It's like the controller or my ship is on drugs .... why is it like this ? Is it supposed to be like this ?
    Because this makes the game not just hard, but almost impossible to beat in someways , I cant see the aim properly , how am I supposed to shoot ?
    Well , that being said ,It is worst in the... i think 3rd or 4th mission when I was in California and i had to escort a convoy through this cloud when the outcasts attack from all sides , The convoy keeps moving even after being hit and the outcasts using dagger and they clearly outmaneuver any human in the clouds . I thing is I couldn't aim at them at all . The sensor efficiency reduced thing !!! It is so annoying , It gave me a headache trying to get that mission . Guess what I had to do ?
    I had buy an eagle , Load it with class 8 and class 7 guns , And I still had to go through that mission 10 times . It's not that i die , but the problem is , The convoy just kept dieing , The convoy dies in 5-10mins ...... It's ridiculous . Means i have only 5-10 min to kill 7 or 8 planes. Once they killed the convoy in less than a minute . "Trent , It's over , we failed " and "Transport 2 is dead" . This was rather annoying . So The way i actually cleared it was, there is just this small area without clouds , and I got 30 secs to a minute to keep the outcasts there , I basically took 3 fighters down in less than a minute there , almost 4 . The rest 2 or 3 took a lil bit of time . But i somehow i cleared this mission .
    The best part of this game is I think the money system , It's easy to earn money . and That's what I like .
    Also , it is way harder killed light fighters in clouds than heavy or very heavy but VHF will probably kill me before i get them , but If i move zig zag like them , even they won't be able to land a hit on me .
    I found the other missions with tekagi , the ones the Alaska , etc very tough too because of the clouds , without the clouds , it easier , since I am in control of my aim and ship . So what is this " Warning , sensor efficiency reduced " thing ??????? And does this only happen to me ?
    Cause the sensor efficiency seems way too hard to control ,It actually gives me a headache . I wanted to complete the storyline campaign though , but if I get VHFs with strong guns in clouds in some other fights , I don't think i would complete it , It would be almost impossible .
    Regenerating shields are okay, nanobots are fine, even better flying is fine, but when I loose of my aim and control of my ships, thats just not done, That's just very hard ...on a god level....

  • Hello diggi,


    welcome in crossfire universe. Few hints which can help you: with more full cargo hold your ship will be more influenced with 'inertia' (like drift effects). This happen also when you are for long time in space ... its matter of adaptation (this can be nicely used when you count with this). Second thiing is that in nebulas is your ship slower and radar range is reduced ... its mod feature (someone don't like someone yes). CF difficulty is hard and challenging, it need some time before you can tell that know good fly, fight ... but on the end you will have much more fun.


    ... fast LF ... you need learn how to aim faster and kill them with one salvo (around Sirius are many wrecks with very strong guns which can allow you pass vanilla missions easy)

  • Welcome Diggi


    We have some Savages waiting for you ... :D


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  • Ah Riebens, don't scare the man with end-level NPC hostiles... lol



    Welcome Diggity (sry, digi :D ),


    In short, things you have to keep in mind:


    - ship load, this happens everywhere, every item you have on your ship adds mass, and like in real life, mass creates inertia, harder to start and to stop. Weapons, ammo, cargo hold stuff (goods and etc) they all add mass. With less stuff you have, faster you go.
    - Clouds /Nebulas: they half your movement and speed, if you notice your speed is a bit lower, and lower agility, but if you mix that with a full cargohold, then it's on drugs, yeah.


    And for "protect ship xx" missions, have in count this:
    - First target and fire/kill on those NPCs that attack the transport ships, if all NPCs go against you, you may be well, but the ship xx (transports in this case) won't die soon.

    Chars: [CFPD]Michael~something (x25), [CFPD]~SQMS~{[(store)]} (x3), [CFPD]xfer, Event~Manager~Michael, StarfIier~EM~Michael, Event_Team_2, [GR]Michael[SP] and a blueprint of [CFPD]Sephirothis

  • Diggi - Once again welcome to Crossfire.


    If you need SP support, I offer moral support @ 10M credits per mission (Payable in advance on the MP server)


    I also grind my teeth and wring my hands and shake uncontrollably till the mission is completed.


    From time to time I have also been known to utter sound like .. yikes or aaahh when things goes bad or good.


    Contact me in Space if you need to negociate prices.


    Kind Regards


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  • Thank you everyone , I guess i realize why is it like that now ... Also I managed to clear the vanilla campaign yesterday but when i went to the first SP campaign where you meet Orillion in the New Berlin bar , I met him in the bar, played through the whole scene , but when I launch off new berlin , The game crashes , Why would that happen ? I tried many ways and searched couldn't find anything it still crashes when i launch off new Berlin after meeting Orillion , If i do not go to the bar and launch , it works just fine , Is the campaign file corrupted ?
    Thank you again guys

  • Now that's unusual, normally it crashed for ppl when you speak with Orilion, for a known reason, but to crash when it undocks ? Anyway, a crash in an unusual point of the campaign can mean that, yeah, some file is corrupted or dissapeared, or not "updated" because the file was as "Read Only" before activating the mod.


    Sorry, but if for real you have no way to avoid it, like selling stuff of your ship, changing ship /weapons/scanner n everything, it sounds like you'll have to reinstall it again in clean, using CCleaner to delete registries and making sure to first do CTRL+R or "Restore Backups" before uninstalling FLMM, else when you install it again it will show Crossfire already actived, no matter you have a fresh FL install.



    It is the first time I heard that (and I've seen all technical problems threads), it's totally not normal :(

    Chars: [CFPD]Michael~something (x25), [CFPD]~SQMS~{[(store)]} (x3), [CFPD]xfer, Event~Manager~Michael, StarfIier~EM~Michael, Event_Team_2, [GR]Michael[SP] and a blueprint of [CFPD]Sephirothis

  • so i have to do it all over again ? Will it definitely after re installing ? i don't wanna do the outcast and the racing mission with holvis again , I don't think a hardware problem since most games run fine on my laptop , Civ 5, Devil may cry , Crysis , COD etc

  • digi999: FL is old game ... this mean your modern HW can be for this problem in some cases (but imo this is not your actual case). You can ofc after reinstall (be please sure that your FL folder have all files not write protected! before you will install and activate CF) use older savegames*** ... best is if you use last vanila mission save, replay it and continue to NB (you followed exactly all way points to NB?). Actually many hard to find crashes we had reported was possible to solve when player used last MISSION SAVE! and replayed his last mission. Autosaves and player saves can contain some old/wrong entries which can cause crashes (happen from time to time). If you use mission save, you can be sure game should work correctly (in SP it mean that scripts launching next action works without problem).



    *** copy/move all your SP saves to another place and delete whole folder on C before do clean install ... and after this copy saves back.


    I suggest in all cases look here:
    Information: How to avoid grafic Problems while playing Freelancer


  • If you need SP support, I offer moral support @ 10M credits per mission (Payable in advance on the MP server)
    Kind Regards


    wow...way to give the guy debt if he's never been on the MP server...that's almost as bad as taxing >.<


    and for the whole Single player issues, i wish i could help....

  • Hi Digi999 and welcome here.


    Most important for aiming is projectile speed, so use the same weapons or weapons with same projectile speed. Look at the weapons specs. when buying.
    Here are some basics about fighting from the original Microsoft website - happy reading.
    The link is the "Combat Fundamentals" menu, also read "Weapons Selection" and "Battle Tactics" from the menu.

    CF RP: Probably smuggling something or exploring the universe
    EM char: Event_Manager_Silverfox

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  • Right, REMEMBER to SAVE your savefiles (usually named as "savex9f0t" and stuff like that), just copy and paste the whole folder.

    Chars: [CFPD]Michael~something (x25), [CFPD]~SQMS~{[(store)]} (x3), [CFPD]xfer, Event~Manager~Michael, StarfIier~EM~Michael, Event_Team_2, [GR]Michael[SP] and a blueprint of [CFPD]Sephirothis

  • thanks guys , but i tried doing that , I saved my save files , reinstalled it , but it doesn't seem to work .... It still crashes as soon i get off new berlin . Any solutions ?

  • Also , you people are wrong about cargo load , I have 0 cargo but still I can't control by ship and aim , Actually it's impossible for human eyes to do some of these missions ..... or they take forever , Specially that alaska one too , Just small patriot ship, but you can't land a hit on them , why are they so fast ? not that. Why can't i control my ship ??????
    Why can't the ship be controlled and the aim be controlled ? This is seriously annoying , I tried doing the whole mission again , I got throught most annoying ones and doing the patriot alaska one where i have to rescue president, Alright no cargo , nothing on me, but can't control my own ship at all ???? 
    What is with this game ? Is fighting inside clouds bugged or what ?
    Alright , If i don't get across new berlin this time, I quit this game -_- Crossfire is a headache , I can play but sorry , If i can't see, I can't play , If i can't control , noone can lay when they can't control ,I am not sure if this happens to you too , Cause no way is this possible to be easy , I can't think you people will find unable to control ship and aim easy or fun . It's like holding a sniper rifle when another person is holding the rifle and shaking it wildly , It's rediculouly impossible to aim . You gotta fix this bug or whatever it is . I have class 10 guns on an eagle , an advanced thruster , but i can't hit them , even when I hit the plus sign , it just does nothing , they still don't get hit . And they are lil useless ship -_- Funny part is , if I fly on cruise engines and go zig zag , even the AI can't land a hit on me inside these cloud , It's almost like an infinite battle , I actually have to not use cruise speed , it gives me less than .1 of a sec or even lesser to act, Since i can't even see them , Even without the cruise ,I can't aim , so What i tried to do was , I stopped using mouse fight, In fact i shut down my engines , When i remain stopped, or when i stop the ship , The aim doesn't shake .that's the only way to kill these Alaska guys, Since my hand hurts aiming at them . This is like a bug, you gotta sort the cloud thing out , Even with three hands( if i had ) I would find it still hard to control it . This is gonna ruin my eyes , After this , Im not playing it , I would try discovery maybe , if it doesn't shake inside clouds ...

  • Sory to hear that Diggi, but tried you update info for your graphics card as I suggested?


    second q.: you use for fight cockpit or 3rd person view?


    ... It looks like you have graphics lagg while play and it is only about your local problem. Hmm, dunno, but: did you acticate while activation advanced shaders function? Maybe there is your problem. If I remember for myself use one from those settings (with additional effects) work for me very bad (graphics lag). With used only basic adv.shader on all worked correctly.


    and I can't search it now, but maybe someone can find it for you how to search crash log. This can show why your game crash after you try leave NewBerlin.

  • i use the 3rd person view , by the way . I made the berlin mission work, I am currently at Crossfire story chapter 8 . And i can still say killing the light patriot ships was harder than the dom kavash gunships , even though they hit very hard . They can be killed , even the outcast fighters and those coalition ones weren't too hard . Maybe something wrong in my graphics card maybe . In the clouds , it's very hard .
    But you know, even the dom kavash ships coualdn't hit me inside the clouds . Yeah . can i suggest something ?
    After crossfire story 7 , I went ahead and bought a battleship , thinking it had better armour , Well, Big mistake really , I think you should make them dockable easier , in the trade lanes, It takes forever to dock them ^^ .
    Also they get stuck sometimes and can't move but i can't be fixed , I think ..
    Also , is it supposed to show different sector maps in my navmap ? or is it supposed to show only the sirius sector ? And does the waypoint not work ? or is that just with me too ? like we can't set it ourselves once crossfire starts ...

  • I did activate most of the functions as they were , but it works fine in normal universe , It just gets bad in the clouds , I mostly avoid fighting in the clouds as much as I can .

  • Also, how is the best way to kill alien drones ? just keep trying ? I got two one but died because of explosion . Also , I got that mission and abandoned it ..... I went back to utopia and then , when i was in Hudson , drones appeared but i still didn't kill them , Now i don't really know where they are, I went back to the system ,and there were no drones there . So where are the drones roaming ??

  • regarding ship control i would assume that the mod is not installed correctly and something is missing
    either that or you changed some default game variables



    capital ships are as they are
    there is no room for improvements... the freelancer engine never was meant to handle these kinds of ships


    different sector maps are technically not possible
    waypoints just work fine



    if you leave the mission area in story mode then you dont need to wonder when the mission does not work anymore

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  • digi999: SP capaign is done by scripts launched in unchangeable strict order. It mean, that if you not follow preciselly instructions (mission points, orders), then your SP stop working. In this case you must use last mission save, bcs it is only one working way which start use scripts as was planned (apply it also to your mission in Dervon).


    ... kill drones is relative easy with good flying skills (you know you can in cf strafe also up/down and avoid most of their fire use strafe) and from start usage missiles/torps. Drones not evade much, those weapons and it can help you alot. ... and better learn how to kill them fast, they are not worse npcs you will meet :)


    p.s.: you use ship spinning? (it can mess ship handling if used)


    p.s.2: please use EDIT button when you want add something to your previous post and no one posted after.